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Mike Nomad
10-07-2011, 07:29 AM
Battlefield 3 interview: the beta, the future...



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Battlefield 3 – leaping over the wall of last minute bug-fixing into a store near you soon.


On the verge of Battlefield 3's release, we put a selection of reader questions and other queries to producer Patrick Liu. Just don't ask about projected sales figures...


The launch date is approaching, the online multiplayer beta is attracting thousands of gamers and the expectations are sky high: Battlefield 3 (http://www.battlefield.com/) is coming. And while many have pointed to glitches and bugs still present in the beta code (there remains a baffling inability among gamers to differentiate between the words 'beta' and 'demo'), EA Dice is confident it can have everything ironed out for launch at the end of the month.

Yesterday, EA ran a preview event in London, showing off four single-player missions and a bunch of new multiplayer maps. We'll have more on that later. We also grabbed a few minutes with the game's producer Patrick Liu, who answered a selection of reader questions, as well as some points about that controversial beta.

Here's what he had to say...

How do you feel about the beta so far? It's taught us a lot. Our primary intentions have been to test the backend. As we said at the beginning, we have six times the number of players we had with Bad Company 2, we have record high concurrent users compared to anything we've done before. And we know it works. In previous games (http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/games), like Bad Company and 1943, we've had serious problems with the backend, it's just been overloaded – this time it hasn't been a problem.
So the purpose of the beta has been entirely about testing the infrastructure? Yeah, we just wanted to know it wouldn't crash and burn at launch. It was horrible with Battlefield 1943 – it sold ten times the numbers we thought it would, and it was down for three or four days which is really bad. We don't want to go through that again.
Has anything surprised you about the way people are playing? We've seen a couple of things with the gadgets, but not as much as we expect – but that's mainly down to the map we're showing – the Paris map – it doesn't have any vehicles, it's much more linear; I think we'll see a lot more emergent gameplay with the big, open conquest maps.
What made you decide to run the beta with that map? Some people have said that it's a shame you chose a level without vehicles… Yeah, I think there's been a misunderstanding of the term 'beta test'! We ran the alpha tests with a rush map and we wanted to have some sort of reference so we could compare results – so we needed to have more-or-less the same map. But we do understand the concerns that we didn't show a conquest map, but we have demoed Caspian Border, and we did run a conquest map as a limited PC (http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/pc)-only test.
Our readers have asked about knifing in BF3 – is it correct that it takes two stabs to kill someone with the quick knife? That's true in a sense. We've put another layer into the knife mechanic. Knifing in Battlefield has never been a one hit kill, but if you manage to sneak behind someone it's now a one hit kill – and you then get the dog tags. It's a lot harder!
Have you ever thought of including a flight tutorial in the game to help people get to grips with the aircraft? We've considered it! There will be tips to show you what buttons to use, but it's really about trial and error, and leaning by failing! You will crash a few times before you learn how to fly the jets. I have to admit, there is a steep learning curve. Once you know how to use a jet, it's very, very dangerous. It's been a long balancing process and we always need to provide tools to counter the aircraft. The philosophy is similar to rock, paper, scissors – everything needs to be countered. With jets, it's very har, but I know we've managed it with some of the gadgets and with the anti-aircraft missiles.
Will there be a strong clan infrastructure, complete with clan vs clan matches? Yes. Right now we have the platoons in there, and one of the benefits of having Battlelog is that we can develop and update that element – and we will. We'll change it according to feedback and we can react much faster to what people want.
You've kept the story under wraps so far, do you feel it's doing different things that other military shooters? Yes, I do think we're doing things slightly differently. It's another balancing act, you've got to think of the messaging you want to get across. It's an American game in a sense, but we're based in Sweden – that in itself is a challenge. But we do want to do something different with the narrative.
A lot of our readers are huge fans of Bad Company – has that series been put to bed for a while so you can concentrate on Battlefield? Well, we haven't killed Bad Company! But we can only make so many games. Be patient – there might be something else coming up…
So you are actively working on other things? We always have a couple of projects going on – some of them die, but some are more fruitful. We don't have any plans to make Battlefield an annual title – we want to make it ourselves we don't want anyone else doing it! And no studio can make an annual franchise by themselves – well, the sports titles can but they're a very different breed.
And how about Battlefield 1943, which I loved. Is there a chance of Dice bringing out another digital download title? Certainly, that kind of downloadable game is something we're very keen on. Battelefield 1943 was kind of a disruptive game when it came out; there weren't really any other shooters – XBLA games were very different then. Nowadays there are a lot of big triple A games on Arcade – I'd like to believe we started that trend. I like the whole idea of transforming something as complex as Battlefield into something much more accessible with only very small tweaks to the gameplay mechanics… I could talk about Battlefield 1943 all day, that was my baby!
So what's going on in the office right now? Are you still in the midst of crunch? I think we're over the peak, that's for sure. There's a still a lot of work to do. And the launch is just the start really. We'll then be releasing more content, tweaking and balancing the game – we have a team dedicated to servicing the game after launch.
Have any Battlefield 3 multiplayer maps emerged as team favourites? There are a bunch of them, but what's funny is that we're making the Back to Karkand map pack with all the old BF2 maps and even Wake Island – again! – and people are gravitating towards those once more. It's nostalgia, they're just so familiar. And I love Wake Island! There are a couple of basic map layouts, basic structures that usually work. There are maps that live on, that we just keep re-making over and over again – we do that for a reason: because they're so good. Just looking at Strike at Karkand, thinking of how many hours have been spent on that map – we've seen the statistics, we know it's popular. We've had to analyse //why// it's so good… so we can make it all over again!
The modding community played quite an important role in the early popularity of Battelfield, creating several high-profile offshoots, including Desert Combat, of course. Have you looked into supporting that community with BF3? We've investigated it, but we don't currently have any plans for it – we have no tools that'll be ready for launch. We do recognise the modding community, it's just that it's such a huge undertaking to make a toolset like that – it's like making another game. But we'll see.
Finally, do you have any idea what EA's expectations are for Battlefield, in terms of sales figures? (Pause) I know the figures…[At this point a PR person politely informs me that EA aren't discussing expectations for the title.]

But, okay, is there a blackboard on a wall somewhere at Dice HQ with a figure on it representing the number of units you want to sell? (Laughs) No, it's not something we talk about!

Battlefield 3 is released on PC, PS3 (http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/ps3) and Xbox (http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/xbox) 360 on 28 October.

SOURCE (http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/gamesblog/2011/oct/07/battlefield-3-preview-interview)
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Remember, this "talking head" is from the same goofs (DICE) who said the PC Modding community wasn't smart enough to map or mod for the Frostbite engine. They're "masters" at PR and double-talk.

They're busy offering excuses and carrots - sound familiar?

BF3 is in the same class as CoD BO, MW2, MW3.... sucker bait.

Kill-Zone
10-07-2011, 10:25 AM
BF3 is a class above cod! mod tools our not this game have what RO and COD misses

Mike Nomad
10-07-2011, 11:01 AM
BF3 is a class above cod! mod tools our not this game have what RO and COD misses


Who cares??? Is THAT all you have to offer? What's the point in dragging in RO? Have YOU tried RO2?

Stop acting like a TROLL.

Kill-Zone
10-07-2011, 02:41 PM
Who cares??? Is THAT all you have to offer? What's the point in dragging in RO? Have YOU tried RO2?

Stop acting like a TROLL.

acting like a troll?

why would i you like RO where i dont think its fun !and you dont like BF3 not because its not fun but because you dont have modtools.

you like your games and i like mine but you only judge the company instead of a game.

bf3 is good you just dont like it because you cant run your own server to let people play on your way isnt it?

Mike Nomad
10-07-2011, 03:16 PM
acting like a troll?

why would i you like RO where i dont think its fun !and you dont like BF3 not because its not fun but because you dont have modtools.

you like your games and i like mine but you only judge the company instead of a game.

bf3 is good you just dont like it because you cant run your own server to let people play on your way isnt it?

What's your point Dani, besides making for an argument over a coupla games?

TROLL


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wakka
10-08-2011, 06:11 AM
BF3 outclasses all other games currently , what it lacks in mod tools it makes up in everything else.

Each person will like there own games.

But they key is can they crack the consoles to take out cod

I'm playing a number of closed betas they can't scratch it, sales will tell of the success for the companies.

Players online and longevity will show if its as good as bf2 and cod

This is the only game thats going to take my time up

Some people still want vcod no one will like every game.

Mike Nomad
10-08-2011, 06:29 AM
Exactly! It makes no sense to pit one game against another. That only leads to hurtful and hateful comments.People have the freedom of choice and the right to express respectful opinions.
But to blithely pass snide remarks in retort, as we have seen above, only amplifies a lack of both respect, in-depth knowledge of the games cited and create off-topic posts.

My main complaint is the reasons offered by DICE for the lack of full robust editing tools that allow for BOTH mapping and modding.

One can always rent a server if they so choose.