Mike Nomad
05-17-2007, 10:12 AM
Note: The Poll is multiple-choice. You can vote for more than one version.
So, you think you know from Orel eh? For your added pleasure, we will be running Armored Beasts V2.065 with the up to date tank factory.
Please remember to use the R key to reload your cannon.
Let's find out which of these maps are the most entertaining, fun to play and BALANCED!!
There are currently 8 HOT OREL Maps (that I'm aware of) circulating;
RO-Orel-88v76
RO-Orel-88-vs76_V1.rom (fixed up very nicely)
RO-Orel_Enhanced-V1.rom
RO-Orel_Enhanced-V2.rom
RO-Orel_Heavytanks.rom (So You wanted BIG Tanks in Orel)
RO-Orel_Gentlemen_B3.rom (Great added objectives & Scenery)
RO-Road_to_Orel_MCP1.rom (Slashbot's latest version)
RO-Orel_beta1We will have a Battle of the MAPS weekend beginning today, it will be an entertaining testing period for all of you to play these maps and tell us which one(s) you want to see STAY in rotation. Of course, a few favorite maps are interspersed for variety.
This is an opportunity for you to decide.. Play the maps, then come back to this thread and tell us which of the maps should stay in rotation.
I'm doing this because we have seen so many variations of OREL and so much BS about who authored what, who has permission, which is which and what is what, who's got history and who's got measles. Now with the "software engineers" who've suddenly appeared in the RO forums yapping about everything under the sun that's WRONG with the OREL MAPS. I've decided to leave it entirely up to the users.
For those of you inclined to USE Artillery, be advised that the DEAD TURRET Bug is still not fixed. That means, if you get out of your tank to call in artillery, when you get back in your tank... the turret will not, under any circumstances reload.
http://forums.raidersmerciless.com/images/orel_art1.png
Don't concern yourselves with the similarity in appearances of the maps or who put who's name on what... I could care less. Slashbot427 must be enjoying all the whoop-la his original concept of a large map and release of OREL, way back when, has engendered.
I personally challenge KEYSTONE to take me on in any of the above maps either in a full server or one on one... only this time ya wimp, identify yourself. (Yes folks, he came in the server with a different nickname.. I cleaned his clock anyway!) How do I know? He posted a screen shot of me in a Panther on East Heights..
Ya know, after all the BS clears, the smoke's gone and the mirrors are broken. We'll be running the OREL Map Version that has the best gameplay and is most entertaining.
Again, I'd welcome Keystone to "show me all about" his prowess in a T-34... Heinz, you too!! But then I know you like the German goodies.
The bottom line is; we will run the Version(s) of OREL that users enjoy, not the versions that horse blindered know-it-all history zealots demand. When people say "historical" (Operation Zitadelle) in this context (ie. quietus > no '85) doesn't this simply mean they don't want to include a tank that was not produced in time for the period in which the battle was set? Or, was it?
Do people know the accurate historical loadout for this engagement? (I thought this map was merely based on the operations near Orel, Belgorod, Prokorovka, Ponyri and other locations on the northern face of the Kursk Salient). Ponyri Station, sitting astride the main rail link between Kursk and Orel, was a collection and distribution point for the collective farms in the vicinity; this in turn made it a natural goal in the German's North/South pincer move.
About Operation "Zitadelle" on 5 July 1943, it took four months before the Germans felt ready, by which time they had collected 200 of the new Panther tanks (only 40 available at the beginning of the battle due to technical problems with the new type), 90 Elefant Panzerjägers and every flyable Henschel Hs 129 ground attack aircraft, as well as 270 Tiger-Is, late model Panzer Mark-IVs and even a number of captured T-34s. In total they assembled some 2,700 tanks and assault guns, 1,800 aircraft and 800,000 men. It formed one of the greatest concentrations of German fighting power ever put together. At the time of the Battle of Kursk in the summer of 1943, the T34/76 was still in use. The fighting at Kursk revealed the T-34/76 had finally met its match in the new Panther and Tiger tanks. Several T34/76 tanks were however, tested in the summer of 1943 fitted with the S-53/85mm gun. http://forums.raidersmerciless.com/images/orel_t34-85.png
T-34/85
In mid-1943, an improved model operated by a five men crew and armed with 85mm gun and machine gun was introduced. It was designated as T-34/85 and by the end of the war some 29,430 of these tanks were produced. More about the T34/85; The T34/85 is one of those rare weapons that have remained in service for more than half a century. First introduced in mid 1943, it has seen combat in nearly every corner of the globe and continues in use today.So you see, with or without, the distorted and embellished accounts of this huge battle that came out of "Mother Russia" in their "Great Patriotic War" accounts, (WW2) the truth remains clouded in biased details of the actual regional battles within the huge battle of Kursk.
Who can say, unequivocally, that there were no Panthers and for that matter, no IS2s at any or NONE of the above mentioned locations. I daresay I find nothing that adamantly states they were not there. Except that is, from those who think they have all the TRUE, UNBIASED FACTS. If they even exist, I know only what I was able to find. After all, I wasn't there.
So, you think you know from Orel eh? For your added pleasure, we will be running Armored Beasts V2.065 with the up to date tank factory.
Please remember to use the R key to reload your cannon.
Let's find out which of these maps are the most entertaining, fun to play and BALANCED!!
There are currently 8 HOT OREL Maps (that I'm aware of) circulating;
RO-Orel-88v76
RO-Orel-88-vs76_V1.rom (fixed up very nicely)
RO-Orel_Enhanced-V1.rom
RO-Orel_Enhanced-V2.rom
RO-Orel_Heavytanks.rom (So You wanted BIG Tanks in Orel)
RO-Orel_Gentlemen_B3.rom (Great added objectives & Scenery)
RO-Road_to_Orel_MCP1.rom (Slashbot's latest version)
RO-Orel_beta1We will have a Battle of the MAPS weekend beginning today, it will be an entertaining testing period for all of you to play these maps and tell us which one(s) you want to see STAY in rotation. Of course, a few favorite maps are interspersed for variety.
This is an opportunity for you to decide.. Play the maps, then come back to this thread and tell us which of the maps should stay in rotation.
I'm doing this because we have seen so many variations of OREL and so much BS about who authored what, who has permission, which is which and what is what, who's got history and who's got measles. Now with the "software engineers" who've suddenly appeared in the RO forums yapping about everything under the sun that's WRONG with the OREL MAPS. I've decided to leave it entirely up to the users.
For those of you inclined to USE Artillery, be advised that the DEAD TURRET Bug is still not fixed. That means, if you get out of your tank to call in artillery, when you get back in your tank... the turret will not, under any circumstances reload.
http://forums.raidersmerciless.com/images/orel_art1.png
Don't concern yourselves with the similarity in appearances of the maps or who put who's name on what... I could care less. Slashbot427 must be enjoying all the whoop-la his original concept of a large map and release of OREL, way back when, has engendered.
I personally challenge KEYSTONE to take me on in any of the above maps either in a full server or one on one... only this time ya wimp, identify yourself. (Yes folks, he came in the server with a different nickname.. I cleaned his clock anyway!) How do I know? He posted a screen shot of me in a Panther on East Heights..
Ya know, after all the BS clears, the smoke's gone and the mirrors are broken. We'll be running the OREL Map Version that has the best gameplay and is most entertaining.
Again, I'd welcome Keystone to "show me all about" his prowess in a T-34... Heinz, you too!! But then I know you like the German goodies.
The bottom line is; we will run the Version(s) of OREL that users enjoy, not the versions that horse blindered know-it-all history zealots demand. When people say "historical" (Operation Zitadelle) in this context (ie. quietus > no '85) doesn't this simply mean they don't want to include a tank that was not produced in time for the period in which the battle was set? Or, was it?
Do people know the accurate historical loadout for this engagement? (I thought this map was merely based on the operations near Orel, Belgorod, Prokorovka, Ponyri and other locations on the northern face of the Kursk Salient). Ponyri Station, sitting astride the main rail link between Kursk and Orel, was a collection and distribution point for the collective farms in the vicinity; this in turn made it a natural goal in the German's North/South pincer move.
About Operation "Zitadelle" on 5 July 1943, it took four months before the Germans felt ready, by which time they had collected 200 of the new Panther tanks (only 40 available at the beginning of the battle due to technical problems with the new type), 90 Elefant Panzerjägers and every flyable Henschel Hs 129 ground attack aircraft, as well as 270 Tiger-Is, late model Panzer Mark-IVs and even a number of captured T-34s. In total they assembled some 2,700 tanks and assault guns, 1,800 aircraft and 800,000 men. It formed one of the greatest concentrations of German fighting power ever put together. At the time of the Battle of Kursk in the summer of 1943, the T34/76 was still in use. The fighting at Kursk revealed the T-34/76 had finally met its match in the new Panther and Tiger tanks. Several T34/76 tanks were however, tested in the summer of 1943 fitted with the S-53/85mm gun. http://forums.raidersmerciless.com/images/orel_t34-85.png
T-34/85
In mid-1943, an improved model operated by a five men crew and armed with 85mm gun and machine gun was introduced. It was designated as T-34/85 and by the end of the war some 29,430 of these tanks were produced. More about the T34/85; The T34/85 is one of those rare weapons that have remained in service for more than half a century. First introduced in mid 1943, it has seen combat in nearly every corner of the globe and continues in use today.So you see, with or without, the distorted and embellished accounts of this huge battle that came out of "Mother Russia" in their "Great Patriotic War" accounts, (WW2) the truth remains clouded in biased details of the actual regional battles within the huge battle of Kursk.
Who can say, unequivocally, that there were no Panthers and for that matter, no IS2s at any or NONE of the above mentioned locations. I daresay I find nothing that adamantly states they were not there. Except that is, from those who think they have all the TRUE, UNBIASED FACTS. If they even exist, I know only what I was able to find. After all, I wasn't there.